Ariana Grande is opening up about how acting has impacted her view of touring and making music.

The Wicked star chatted with Practical Magic actress Nicole Kidman for Interview Magazine in a piece published Monday (November 24), bonding over everything from their acting projects to their astrological charts. During their interview, Grande also explained how "grateful and excited" she is for her upcoming Eternal Sunshine tour as she has "been healing [her] relationship to music and touring over the past couple of years."

"I spent a lot of time redoing my system when it comes to making music. With Eternal Sunshine, that felt like a very different experience for me," she said, referring to her 2024 album, her first since 2020's Positions. "I think the time away from it helped me reclaim certain pieces of it and put certain feelings that maybe belonged to my relationship to fame, or the things that come with being an artist, in a box somewhere else, and say, 'Okay. I don't have to let go of this thing that I love. I can just put those things over here, and not lose sight of my gifts.'"

She noted that she had to navigate a "tricky adjustment period" to the increased fame at the start of her pop career and that she "just wasn't expecting certain pieces of it," though she is "so grateful to be able to do what I love."

Grande also credited her shift toward acting, and specifically her role as Glinda in Wicked and its sequel Wicked: For Good, for giving her the strength to work through some of the "traumas" associated with her music career.

"So I've just been taking baby steps toward healing my relationship to music and touring, and I think my time with Glinda and with acting really helped me build the strength to be able to do that," she said. "But I can't express how grateful I am. I think it just held some traumas for me before, and I feel those dissipating, and that is such an extraordinarily beautiful thing."

The "We Can't Be Friends" is hitting the road next year for her first tour since 2019. She recently explained why it may be "one last hurrah" for a "long, long, long, long time."

Rob Powers